I unfortunately have to agree with the person who wrote the review about them not staying up. They stayed up till I got out of my car snd did some real walking. Then about 2 mins into walk in the completely had fallen down. To the designers of this product: don't underestimate the power of a little silicone elastic around the trim around the lace portion of the underwear. It really does help hold them up. I know I have pairs that have the proper silicone trim in the lace. Total waste for me? Well no not totally I wear longer shirts and they ride high enough I can use clips to keep them up when clips to my pants. Kinda like underwear suspenders. But no I can't really recommend these. Sorry keep looking for underwear with better elastic support.