I ordered two pairs, black and beetle, in size 22 (my normal size is anywhere from 18-22). The black pair were too big - loose in the waist, but it was all the baggy material around my butt and thighs I didn't like, so I returned that pair. However, the beetle (olive) colour fit perfectly and didn't have the same issue with bagging material around the back end. The colour is very versatile, and the pants are dressy enough for work. The length did shrink a little after first wash, but not by a lot (ie they are still full length pants!). Would recommend.